Compaq and Hyperion - The First IBM Clones


Andrew Tornadoboy
Andrew Tornadoboy

You ought to review the Coleco Adam computer someday, it's an interesting little oddball of a computer that came and went pretty quickly.

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CARLLIBRE
CARLLIBRE

Thanks Mr. Murray I really enjoy your videos i learn something every time I watch them..... im not really old enough for the computers you showcase, but my family was a "hand me down" family so I started out playing c64 games in the late 90s. I wish I had saved those old tanks of pc legend.

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Shadow Rider
Shadow Rider

I really enjoy watching your videos. I was born at the tail end of the 80's so I still had the opportunity to have some of them you discuss in my home, including an Apple II at some point. I have a disability known as cerebral palsy. There is not anything I can't tackle, but I always preferred to get in front of a machine just to see if I could learn something new. I now work as a Lead Technician for a furniture company. Would love to see you do a video on the old Altair 8000 or even the 8800 if you haven't already. Really enjoy it, thank you for taking the time to keep the history of these machines alive. I am looking to get into collecting myself, do you have any recommendations on a good starter PC?

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Mitsos Tech Tips
Mitsos Tech Tips

David, i think you should start capturing more often videos, i think it will be wayy better

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Adam SK/EN
Adam SK/EN

#the8bitguy

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Draut Alain
Draut Alain

and another great video from the 8-bit guy, thanks and keep up the good work ;)

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Michael Jordan
Michael Jordan

The oldest one I had was either a Kaypro II or an Osborne I. Some idiot partitioned the 20mb hard drive of the Kaypro II into A-ZZ... and had random programs on each one. The Osborne had dual 5.25 floppies. 64kb, more than we'll ever need!

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épinards & caramel
épinards & caramel

6:39 I love the Fallout feel :D

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Alec W
Alec W

I’m watching this right after watching his first video, from 2007

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64bittz
64bittz

10:02 i’ve seen that same connector on an Olivetti machine. It’s a huge connector that allows you to split into several parallel data ports. Or at least that’s what i found.

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High Path
High Path

I have - under the bed somewhere - a Compaq Plasma Screen Portable, it was useful, but for business purposes not ideal on spreadsheets - would be interesting if the mains side works to expand and upgrade with CF hard drive and similar. The first clone I used was the Italian Olivetti M-24 (?)(Well apart from the Dec Rainbow I used elsewhere) a really nice PC, then the company got a Deskpro and eventually hooked it into two lots of software running on a PDP1100 so we could CSV data in and out that I could process into job work- I converted a two week job into a two hour one !

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JBBrickman
JBBrickman

(Unrelated to video) Are you keeping up with the Commodore? Cause the Commodore's keeping up with you! In a world of fun and fantasy, and ever changing views, and computer terminology, Commodore is used! Are you keeping up with the Commodore? Cause the Commodore's keeping up with you! Are you keeping up with the Commodore, cause the Commodore's keeping up with you!

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JBBrickman
JBBrickman

Are you keeping up with the Commodore? Cause the Commodore's keeping up with you! In a world of fun and fantasy, and ever changing views, and computer terminology, Commodore is used! Are you keeping up with the Commodore? Cause the Commodore's keeping up with you! Are you keeping up with the Commodore, cause the Commodore's keeping up with you!

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Gerard Kean
Gerard Kean

So when did compaq start making shitty proprietary desktops?

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Wolf Merrik
Wolf Merrik

I have a lovely working Compaq Portable, and this video definitely inspired me to play with it this winter. I never thought to expand upon it, but the Flash Reader is a super smart idea, and a great first step!

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airtightindustries
airtightindustries

Hey, Mikey from Plane Savers and ice pilots needs a mac... check out his episode 19, and see if you can help him out!

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Prepare2 qualify
Prepare2 qualify

How would I be able to use an Atari 2600 controller on an apple IIe (without the 4play joy port card as those only work well on the Apple II and II+ lines of machines. Could I make my own adapter? The port on the back of the apple IIe is the standerd female 16 pin connector, but so is the port on the Atari joystick, I doubt male to male adapters exist... (As you can probably see, I'm new to this.)

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avenger007007
avenger007007

you got a subscribe out of me. Interesting channel.

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macmn4_prac
macmn4_prac

I play on a microwave! Person: No u don’t cuz it can’t work... ohhhh. Guy: XD

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Cali Brothers Studios
Cali Brothers Studios

good job on planit x1 2 3

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Quite Lazy
Quite Lazy

I always thought a Hyperion was a battleship.

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Дмитрий Денисюк
Дмитрий Денисюк

Hello David, I'm yours new subscriber, I really like yours videos and it will be cool if You can make review of PS1 classic mini (or original PS1). Thanks!

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Ducky
Ducky

and one see a pipboy in this pc?

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DAVID GREGORY KERR
DAVID GREGORY KERR

Why are you missing out the AMSTRAD PC1512/1640 series.

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An Anna
An Anna

Ugh old rancid junk.. but... focus on the power cord. 3:15 - It is the only single fucking computer thing that has survived 40 fucking years unchanged and NOT become obsolete. Everything else... every fucking thing else.. that was a standard... they found some way to fuck up. Oh, don't get me wrong, they tried with the power cord too, with power bricks for laptops...

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Ultrametric
Ultrametric

One more little piece of info - the Portable was certainly important but Compaq made their biggest impression by being first (or nearly so) to put out a 386-based computer. IBM was targeting OS/2 for the 286 specifically, a huge oversight, because the 386 has a virtual 8086 mode that allows you to run DOS programs easily inside a multi-tasking environment. Windows was designed to exploit this mode and that gave it an enormous advantage over OS/2. A lot of popular DOS software HAD to run in real mode, and switching the 286 from protected to real mode took forever. Once in protected mode it was expected to stay there - that was just the way the chip was designed. The virtual 8086 mode on the 386 eliminated this problem completely. I had a Compaq Deskpro 386-25 for work and it was amazingly fast compared to anything else I'd used. That was in 1988. Although I was always impressed by the performance and design, they were UGLY computers :) I mean hideous! And the plastic always felt cheap to me.

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Ultrametric
Ultrametric

I actually got to tote a Compaq portable home with me at my first non-school related job. I was essentially a BASIC programmer for a startup. We had a contract with IBM so we had good equipment. The Portable was expensive! Ours had a hard disk in it. I could dial into work over a 300 baud acoustic modem. I seem to remember setting that system up, but that might be nostalgia speaking :) Oh yes, because MDA used 4k of address space at B000:0 while CGA used that at B800:0, so you could use both cards in the same machine and have a dual-head computer, even in the 1980s! The coolest programmers used an MDA to display the output of a code-following symbolic debugger, while the program output ran on the main screen. Back in the day my maxed out 486 DX2/66 had a Hercules graphics card in an ISA slot coupled to a MDA screen for dual-head. Windows looked awesome in green and black :)

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tareva1
tareva1

One of the best channels on YouTube.

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sbmphr
sbmphr

This guy sucks so bad

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LGR
LGR

Having never owned or even used either of these machines before, this was an absolute treat to watch. Nice work once again, David. And I am in love with that Hyperion machine's design! The disk drive mechanisms alone are fantastic. Shame about its lack of... working.

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Tonguç Endem
Tonguç Endem

The Amiga episode please.

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mostlyharmless11
mostlyharmless11

Why was the internal CRT unable to display composite video even though the video card is able to do it with an external crt?

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Bill Wade
Bill Wade

Love the video. I had a Compaq Portable 2 and 3 back in the day that I hit a hold of we'll after they were obsolete. I managed to shoe horn a low end Pentium board into the 3 and used to use it for our dedicated Half Life server at LAN parties. Ahhh... Glowing amber plasma screen FTW!!!

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Sam Channel
Sam Channel

David, look this http://youtu.be/cIXOH1tJJu4

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Yi ‌
Yi ‌

I really wish my Compaq could do more than just sit on a shelf but its mainboard is literal toast and I have no special contacts like you did when you replaced yours ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Michael Chambers
Michael Chambers

Had the compact thing was bullet proof wow

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PuppetGameReviews
PuppetGameReviews

Hyperion restoration???? maybe??

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PuppetGameReviews
PuppetGameReviews

i like the hyperion better

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daniel odom
daniel odom

apparently nintendo made the famicon! it stands for family computer system! while i could find a few videos on it that doesn't make not cool because it was only sold in japan.

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Adam Woodhouse
Adam Woodhouse

"Halt and Catch Fire" was a great series for those of us from that era.

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Ran No
Ran No

That "Rub Out" key is sexy!

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Chicken Johnson
Chicken Johnson

kickstarter for compaq and hyperion mini. who's with me

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Sean C.
Sean C.

3:30 those doors make an aweful sound! 😡 I knew I didn't like Compaq for a reason.

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duke duckett
duke duckett

I don’t know if anyone’s pointed it out but there was a portable between the original and the portable 2 the compaq portable 286 I have most of one around here somewhere

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Hart Henry
Hart Henry

Ctrl+M = Return Key (if return key is not working)

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Jess Hull
Jess Hull

its to bad, the Hyperion looks way better just from an aesthetic point of view.

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Mitch Johnston
Mitch Johnston

I wad given that EXACT Compaq computer a few years ago... with two drives and an updated HDD on it. Though... mine Is like Orange. And was not from a smokers house.. it just yellowed that bad where it was.

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sci3ntologist
sci3ntologist

The hyperion looks just like an apple lisa lol

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Andrew Prince
Andrew Prince

Yay you're back!

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VectraQS
VectraQS

Reminds me of years ago when danooct1 did a video on his Portable (I). He put the Portable III on top of it and said "I mocked the Portable III because it weighed twenty pounds and came in its own duffel bag. But screw the Compaq Portable III, say hello to the Compaq Portable I."

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ez45
ez45

David, what have you done? You just _mentioned_ Halt and Catch Fire and here I am at the end of season 2!!

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Remi van Dongen AKA Jimmy Walter, CIA
Remi van Dongen AKA Jimmy Walter, CIA

How far have we traveled?!

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Remi van Dongen AKA Jimmy Walter, CIA
Remi van Dongen AKA Jimmy Walter, CIA

"Portable"

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Remi van Dongen AKA Jimmy Walter, CIA
Remi van Dongen AKA Jimmy Walter, CIA

Beautiful green and black screens! Long time ago I seen one! Well in action, still have that Apple IIc

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Remi van Dongen AKA Jimmy Walter, CIA
Remi van Dongen AKA Jimmy Walter, CIA

I feel so old, but it wasn't that long ago....

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Remi van Dongen AKA Jimmy Walter, CIA
Remi van Dongen AKA Jimmy Walter, CIA

That sound! It is just like home!

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Remi van Dongen AKA Jimmy Walter, CIA
Remi van Dongen AKA Jimmy Walter, CIA

It is a good channel for those Assembly programmers like me. TODAY WE DIRECTLY PROGRAM THE MATRIX! But this reveals a lot of gaps to how we got there I had many of these systems, but not all.

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Michelangelo
Michelangelo

Sometimes I wonder how big exactly is David's house to store all of these machines?

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threedog_101
threedog_101

I had that Compaq, kept it for many years after, at the bottom of my cupboard. Sadly my parents got rid of it after I left home, so I'm happy to see it here one more time. Thank you for the great video :)

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Capricete _
Capricete _

10:09 - Ouch! That was definitely a loud high-pitched whine coming from the power supply when you plugged it into power.

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Brunn0121
Brunn0121

what an amazing build quality, with separate shields and everything... jesus

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Nob the Knave
Nob the Knave

"It has a floppy drive, a parallel port, and a.. I dont know." This perfectly summed up computers in the 80's.

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Classic80sStuff
Classic80sStuff

Compaq actually invented my grandpa. He has some very interesting stories to tell. It is amazing what he remembers considering how little memory he has.

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Colin Mills
Colin Mills

"8 bit guy is the Pastiest cracker ever" - silphantom

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bizzarrogeorge
bizzarrogeorge

Ok 8-bit Guy, I have a question. I am a child of the 80's, and I am nostalgic for both the Amber and the green glow of those old displays. I have been searching for those retro display themes for both my Android device and my desktop PC. Are you aware of any? Thanks!

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PickelJars ForHillary
PickelJars ForHillary

It's not easy being green. Compaq: Hold my beer.

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Jenny X
Jenny X

I used one of the Compaq’s as a “portable” back in the 80’s. The company owned 2 if I remember right. Every weekend there was a 32 hour job that ran on the mainframe that took another 9 hours to print. We used 1 of the Compaq’s to monitor the mainframe from home while the job was running so we didn’t have to babysit. Definitely a trip down memory lane for me. Thank you for a great video with good explanations. Your subscription numbers amaze me. I had no idea that there’s so much interest in these antiques!

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The Emerald Minecart II
The Emerald Minecart II

Your channel is awesome!

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Jared Emery
Jared Emery

I completed Ultima 4 on a Compaq luggable at age 12 in the back of a moving RV.

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Teenage Gamer
Teenage Gamer

Rest-or-a-tion Rest-or-a-tion Rest-or-a-tion!!! Of the Hyperion, please.

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Joao Eduardo Soares e Silva
Joao Eduardo Soares e Silva

Dang it, I tough it did not finis watching this video, but turns out I did, now I have to wait for another video :O

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Ken Rosa
Ken Rosa

I've got an Columbia Data Product's VP, a 1983 32 lb. "luggable" IBM-PC clone which has a 9" monochrome CRT and dual 5.25' FDD. The OS was MS-DOS or CP/M-86 and original MSRP was $3K! It's buried somewhere in my shed...it may be time to dig it out for a smoke test.

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William Hostman
William Hostman

Did anyone ever market a replacement screen in color for the Compaq I?

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tesorue
tesorue

I watch this video from Hyperion

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robertd1965
robertd1965

The "tool-less" entry into that system was accomplished by standing in front of the unit, pressing your palm into the far right rear corner until the cover slightly flexes open, then you take your fingers while retaining the pressure on the corner, under the cover and flexing it outward away from the unit, and "whacking" the upper-left corner with your free left hand. At that point, if you did it correctly and the pressure in the right corner was applied properly, the entire cover pops off in one fell swoop. I used to do this all the time back in the day. It was a neat trick, but took some practice. The only caveat is if you go off the rails TOO much, you could potentially crack the ABS... Given the age of these units now, I would have to say attempting to do this maneuver now might actually crack the plastic due to how brittle it may have become, so it's probably not something you want to do.

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flarn2006
flarn2006

My dad has a Compaq portable that doesn't boot; it just displays the blinking cursor and "+" sign in the corner forever. It has the dual floppy configuration, and a hard drive installed in one of the card slots, and I think this happens no matter what you boot it from. Does anyone have any idea what could be wrong with it?

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flarn2006
flarn2006

How can it be more than 100% compatible?

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pacmania1982
pacmania1982

That's where the back slash is on a UK keyboard ;)

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Don Costello
Don Costello

Ctrl-M used to work in place of the return key. The BIOS would translate it as a return keystroke (I had the same problem on my own computer)

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FyberOptic
FyberOptic

I still have find memories of the IBM Portable PC. It was the first PC-compatible my family had, given to us by a computer teacher who saw that interest in learning more about computers, especially considering it was broken when we first got it! I fixed it, and it all snowballed from there.

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Richard Harris
Richard Harris

Another GREAT video!

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Rachel Dali Hug
Rachel Dali Hug

I remember being jealous of a friend who had the Compaq portable many many moons ago :)

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Grim Monolith
Grim Monolith

Fix the damn return key before you finish the video, lazy just lazy. like wtf

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Sondre Bjørgård
Sondre Bjørgård

3:35 I heard "ten fucking keys" and almost spat out my dinner

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犬走つばき
犬走つばき

While reading title the first thing came in my mind was tons of loaders and the face of Handsome Jack. Oops, Jack didn't exist when this Hyperion was on the market A hyperion without Handsome Jack, 10/10

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Deadly Raver
Deadly Raver

I want to say that compaq was a sorry clone of IBM, but at least I know who they are. I've never even heard of Hyperion. It looks like Compaq wasn't always trash. I wish that company had been here when I was stuck working on them. Either way, those days are done and I'm done with them.

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C C
C C

Definitely one of his most epic videos.

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Joshua Ferguson
Joshua Ferguson

Did that have wifi and what year was that

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Olaf Leimann
Olaf Leimann

In University, we had those style keyboards when I was studying there from ‘85. The view of these is really nostalgic to me :)

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grumpy gamer360
grumpy gamer360

Can you upgrade a DSi???

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Glenn Griffon
Glenn Griffon

6:11 Ow me eyes!

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Joel Maye
Joel Maye

I spent many hours playing the original Flight Simulator on a Compaq Portable Plus - 5 1/4" floppy plus a 10 Mb hdd. i don't recall any issues with speed at the time. The Compaq portables were reputed to have much more robust power supplies than even the IBM desktops. Who remembers dropping an internal cage screw down inside and having to hold the Compaq over your head and shake it out?

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Worhan
Worhan

The compaq is so squeeky

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Nick Powers
Nick Powers

8 Bit guy, have you run the gambit of 8-bit computer stuff? It seems you don't do videos very often and when you do they are about PCs (the trash bin of 8-bit stuff) :(

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TheEudaemonicPlague
TheEudaemonicPlague

I used to have a Compaq II. A friend (he was an electronics technician in the navy) offered to upgrade it, but instead, killed it dead. It was fun while it lasted. Bought a C128 to replace it--much, much better.

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Losi
Losi

10:08 That sound of the CRT! Always brings me back. I can still here those high frequencies.

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ElMariachi
ElMariachi

Image one vendor nearly completely cloing another vendor's technology first and then the other vendor cloing that vendor's case design afterwards. Nowadays they would sue the hell out of each other.. It would be great if you could test the 8088MPH demo on some of those composite out CGA devices, just for the giggles and curiosity, but also out of technical interest. (I guess you know this insane demo giving the CGA XT graphical capabilities beyond an Amiga?) As it's really hardcore optimized for the original PC/XT it's said to only work on that, but as lomg as no one tries we will neve rknow for sure, I think! :)

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OculoMentis
OculoMentis

Completely unrelated, but are you the same guy behind The Thought Emporium?

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ElMariachi
ElMariachi

From what I remember the clone vendors primarily claimed to be 'IBM compatible', not 'MS-DOS compatible', didn't they? just word nit picking here, but I want to verify my memory :) Maybe it was different on various continents? Btw: Is that 50 pin port maybe an SCSI port?

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Pete Brown
Pete Brown

That Hyperion is beautifully designed. It looks like it could be from many years later.

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ganymedeIV4
ganymedeIV4

Dude, I used to 'repair' 5150's because they were used in Yum Foods legacy registers (still being used in some places today lol!) but i've slaughtered at least eight thousand of these...sorry. Nobody cared about them at the time and I guess were bought off businesses and such wholesaled for pennies on the dollar; we tore them down and adapted them for the broken IBM registers coming in then shot them back out across the world...but anyways I remember throwing away an ocean worth of those keyboards, the plastics, drives, cables, cathodes and flybacks and already feeling bad about dumpstering all this waste... I see people like you attempting to restore the post holocaust versions and feel like garbage myself because i know even in that state, those dumpsters would of made you smile... I did save a lot of commodore 64's and those old square box apples and those extra ancient ones that were just going to be tossed because they were included in the sale, hulking them off to a friend that ran an arcade/comic store. That company shuddered around 2009 but the warehouse containing all that old stuff still exists near downtown OKC off nw5th, near the old league of the blind building. If you ever happen to read this and want to reach out to the owners, I've got names and facebook links. 4:33 Yeah, you need fingernails...just put your nails in and pick the whole unit up by those latches.. it'll pop down...but that works way better when you give zero f**ks about the machine.

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